George Edward Valley, Sr.^[1]

1875 - 1950  (74 years)

• Name	George Edward Valley
  Suffix	Sr.
  Born	12 Apr 1875	Ogdensburg, St. Lawrence, New York, United States
  	Adopted in Ogdensburg, but birth location officially unknown.
  Christened	23 Apr 1875	Notre Dame Church, Ogdensburg, St. Lawrence, New York, United States   [2]
  Gender	Male
  Residence	1880	Ogdensburg, St. Lawrence, New York, United States   [3]
  Residence	1900	Manhattan, New York, New York, United States   [4]
  Residence	1910	Manhattan, New York, New York, United States   [5]
  Residence	1915	Brooklyn, Kings, New York, United States   [6]
  Residence	12 Sep 1918	Flushing, Queens, New York, United States   [7]
  Residence	1920	Queens, Queens, New York, United States   [8]
  Residence	1925	Flushing, Queens, New York, United States   [9]
  Residence	1930	Queens, Queens, New York, United States   [10]
  Residence	1940	Queens, Queens, New York, United States   [11]
  Died	20 Jan 1950	Flushing, Queens, New York, United States
  Buried	24 Jun 1950	Green Wood Cemetery, Brooklyn, Kings, New York, United States   [12]
  Person ID	I601063026	Master Tree | Descendants of Pierre Vallee
  Last Modified	6 Oct 2023

  
  

  Father	Joseph H Valley,   b. Abt 1831, Quebec, Canada ,   d. Bet. 1875 and 1880  (Age ~ 44 years)
  Relationship	Adopted
  Mother	Marie Dorothee Dalpe Pariseau Dolbec,   b. 5 Feb 1836, St-Roch-de-l'Achigan, L'Assomption, Quebec, Canada ,   bur. 2 Sep 1922, Green Wood Cemetery, Brooklyn, Kings, New York, United States  (Age ~ 86 years)
  Relationship	Adopted
  Family ID	F539541131	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  
  

  Family	Edith Ringgold Cummins,   b. 8 Jul 1881, Bronx, Bronx, New York, United States ,   d. 16 Jan 1969, Dayton, Montgomery, Ohio, United States  (Age 87 years)
  Married	25 Jun 1910	St. Mary's Church, Bronx, Bronx, New York, United States   [13]
  Children	+ 1. George Edward Valley Jr,   b. 05 Sep 1913, Manhattan, New York, New York, United States ,   d. 20 Oct 1999, Cambridge, Middlesex, Massachusetts, United States  (Age 86 years) + 2. Thomas Henry Valley, Sr.,   b. 11 Jan 1920, Bronx, Bronx, New York, United States ,   d. 11 Apr 1984, Dayton, Montgomery, Ohio, United States  (Age 64 years)
  Last Modified	6 Feb 2017
  Family ID	F539541129	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  
  

• Event Map		Born - 12 Apr 1875 - Ogdensburg, St. Lawrence, New York, United States Christened - 23 Apr 1875 - Notre Dame Church, Ogdensburg, St. Lawrence, New York, United States Residence - 1880 - Ogdensburg, St. Lawrence, New York, United States Residence - 1900 - Manhattan, New York, New York, United States Residence - 1910 - Manhattan, New York, New York, United States Married - 25 Jun 1910 - St. Mary's Church, Bronx, Bronx, New York, United States Residence - 1915 - Brooklyn, Kings, New York, United States Residence - 12 Sep 1918 - Flushing, Queens, New York, United States Residence - 1920 - Queens, Queens, New York, United States Residence - 1925 - Flushing, Queens, New York, United States Residence - 1930 - Queens, Queens, New York, United States Residence - 1940 - Queens, Queens, New York, United States Died - 20 Jan 1950 - Flushing, Queens, New York, United States Buried - 24 Jun 1950 - Green Wood Cemetery, Brooklyn, Kings, New York, United States  = Link to Google Earth
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• Notes

  From Louise: Grandpa spoke of schools he had attended (graduated from ) and George followed up with those schools. No school had listed a George Edward or Edward ever having attended, let alone graduated. Obviously the man attended somewhere. He spoke 2 languages fluently - some Yiddish - some Indian dialect. He did Math, Reading, Writing and had the training and experience to achieve his Master's Electrician license. In conversations with Dad, Grandpa spoke about being part Indian. So I followed that route and found an Edward Valley, 25% Chippewa, electrician, on the Indian rolls, who had attended the Carlisle school in the late 1800's. Carlisle didn't have a picture of him ......... at least not one identified as Edward Valley. There may be group shots with him in class, etc ........... that's why I'm interested of seeing Grandpa as a young man. One day I'd hope to drop in on Carlisle ...............got a friend there ........ or had a friend in the records department. This Edward Valley ran away from Carlisle about the same time our Edward Valley showed up in New York. Indians were required to check in with the Federal Government. The Feds lost track of their Edward Valley, electrician, in 1910 .............. suprisingly the same time our Edward Valley changed his name and got married. Anyway .............. The Feds show an Oliver Valley as parent of Edward AND lists NO MOTHER !!!!! Curiouser and Curiouser, don't ya think ? I just find that so interesting ........ you'd think somebody could identify the PERSON who had the baby LAST not just the sperm donor. Grandpa had an Uncle Oliver ( with a French spelling ) in Montreal. At the time of Grandpa's birth, Uncle Oliver was single and equally suprising, Sophie Valley, picked up her family in Montreal and moved to Ogdensburg ............. there are some date problems as to when Sophie actually became a widow too ......... she may have been a widow at this point. Sophie moved the family into the Valley Dry Goods store ( the cousin in-law's business ) store in Ogdensburg working as a seamstress and taking care of the Valley household as this Joseph Valley was widowed too. The local Catholic church in Ogdensburg has the 3 baptismal certificates Dad talked the priest into giving him. I found Betrands in Ogdensburg and Montreal, so I asked myself the following questions, being a Math person and all. What are the odds of 2 separate Edward Valley's appearing on this planet at the same time, with the same background, the same job, the same mystery of "birth" and with the same family members names, one Edward being lost to the Feds and the other reinvented in the same year, being mixed Indian blood, and it goes on and on and on up to and including the fact my Dad went to Franklin and Marshall College in Pennsylvania ......... the same town as Carlisle Indian School. The odds are astronomical against there being 2 people. Astronomical ......... there would be some chance with a population of 300 million ......doubt there was any chance in that time frame. Uncle George dismissed it all as speculation insisting his DAD WAS WHITE. ( when Grandpa George who first said he was Indian and he said it in reference to applying for the reparations to all Canadian Native Americans, and Grandpa NEVER screwed around or lied about money ) Coincidence, could be, but one can deny my existence with my genetic tracer to being Native American. ALL Native Americans and ONLY NATIVE AMERICANS have a genetic mutation which changes the retinal pettern. I have that. It has to come from the Valley/Cummins line since I know where/and who the Swedes were. They weren't in this country long enough and there aren't any babies with unknown parents. The Cummins, brilliant folks, were a big pain in the ass, prided themselves in keeping acurate family records ..............I think Grandma was getting old ( old for her time ) and settled on George after she "cleaned" him up a bit. From researcher Mona Rainville: In my humble oopinion, you are most likely looking for a child whose mother is either a LACOMBE or a BROUILLETTE, which are the names of the godparents. Carolus LACOBE = Charles LACOMBE, and Delima DOUILLETTE - Rose de Lima BROUILLETTE. (Don't ask me how I know this...) Priests routinely wrote "parents unknown" instead of revealing the identity of the birth mother, and exposing her to shame. But if on top of it the priest add that the child is a bastard, then he must know the parents are not married. Ergo, he knows at least the mother... And so much for protecting the child from shame. Had this been 50 or 100 years earlier, I would have ventured another explanation. It was then routine for catholic priests to indicate in their parish baptismal registers a child as a bastard when this child was born from a marriage not recognized by the church, as for example, a marriage between a catholic and a protestant. Who knows, this might still be the case, in this case. After all, why write the child is from unknown parents, if you know the child is a bastard ? He'd have to have known the mother, at least, and know that she was not married to the father. See what I mean ? It was not unusual for such children to be put up for adoption, and to be adopted by relatives, sometimes distant, but sometimes the actual siblings of the birth mother. The child rarely - if ever - carried the father's name. To make matters worse, it also happened sometimes that the godparents were related to the father, rather than to the mother. Still, I can't see a real connection with Montreal, or with the Province of Quebec for that matter. The mother might have been born in the US, from parents born here. And the same could be true of the father. This baptismal certificate does not state the date of birth. Perhaps this child was born months or even years prior to being baptized as a catholic.

  
  

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  [S8072384370] New York City Directory, 1915, (The Generations Network, 2005). Name: valley Title: NewYork-NY-1915a Year: 1915 City: New York Book Section: V Page: 510 Source: . n.p.: n.p., n.d.. "Geo E & Bro (Geo E & Jos H Valley) electns 365, 9th Ave." [S8072066199] Notre Dame Church Records, Ogdensburg, NY. In the year of the Lord 1875 on the day of 23 April, I, according to the scriptures, baptized Edouard (bastard) born of parents unknown. Patrons were Carolus Lacobe and Delima Douilette. -- G. Jeannotte [S8029507917] 1880 United States Census. [S560402473] 1900 United States Census. [S560402623] 1910 United States Census. [S16144775169] 1915 New York State Census. [S4791290818] World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918. [S560402624] 1920 United States Census. [S16144775155] 1925 New York Census. [S560402625] 1930 United States Census. [S16144775132] 1940 US Census. [S16144775220] Web: Brooklyn, New York, Green-Wood Cemetery Burial Index, Ancestry.com, (Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011). [S16144775219] New York, New York, Marriage Index 1866-1937 , Ancestry.com, (Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2014.).